Hosting & Coaching "Pricing"

Marketing
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@partha I blame you for this as you can't ask people what they want to pay and expect an honest answer 🤣 🤣 🤣 . No one wants to over commit in case it was more than you planned but no one wants to look cheap either so we all just gave really vague answers 😆 😆. Really enjoying it so far, even though the last 2 weeks I have done very little work and spent more time reading this forum.

Will be back at it a lot more next week and looking forward to seeing the packages, have put some straps on my chair to stop me falling off when I see the pricing 😀 👍

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I'm a tad behind right now, just spent a week hiking up mountains to translate for a building team here in Guatemala, but catching up on all the posts.

I think Partha definitely needs proper compensation for coaching. That's a lot of knowledge and obviously it's worth money. As a writer, I wouldn't accept a pittance for an article either (though I did just accept a stupidly low amount for that translating . . . won't do that again!). That being said, I'm probably not going to take advantage of the coaching early on.

Having done the Parasite SEO course, I'm still trying to get my ducks in a row and balance it all with everything else in my life. Once I know what direction I'm going in, I'll be able to take off, since writing is my THING. It's just figuring out the darn niche. But hosting is definitely something I want to take care of as it's literally the only reason to be on WA at the moment. I gave up on their training ages ago and was following Partha anyway. So if he's over here, so am I, lol.

The more I think about it, the more I think I'm going to torch my existing sites. I have one that I run for a friend, one for the business I run with my husband, and a couple of penname sites for my books, plus one for my writing business (ha, now you see why I am so bad at getting my ducks in a row), so I'm going to keep those, but toss the ones that I'm attached to but make no money and are really quite pointless.

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I gave up on their training ages ago and was following Partha anyway

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I spent at least a year only visiting WA to check what Partha was posting. As soon as my yearly renewal was up, I was gone. Then I realised all of WA's blog posts are viewable to the whole world anyway ... could've saved myself a few hundred bucks there! lol

Oh well, keep moving forward - don't look back 😊

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Just thinking out loud again, once more without talking to Diane or Andy first 🤣🤣🤣🤣, but the following is ALSO open to Diane and Andy.

So I was speaking to an "online friend" of mine for quite a while last night (and don't forget my background is "blackhat", so NEVER ask me how I manage certain things, I won't tell you, and I certainly won't teach you, unless you're truly ready to convert to the "dark side" 🤣🤣🤣

Anyway, I can probably get Semrush Guru accounts for a hugely discounted price.

Okay, Semrush Guru costs $250/month.

With semrush Guru you can actually do a complete website audit for yourself, plus Semrush has their own YouTube channel with tutorials for everything.

Now, when you first sign up for semrush you get a free 14-day trial, but you are automatically enrolled into one of their subscriptions, so if you wish to cancel, you need to email their team and complete a form first, and then the account wlll be cancelled.

You won't be abe to use the email address you signed up with to get a free trial with semrush again, plus, there are often issues signing to semrush again straight after for another 14-day trial, but with a different email address, I'm guessing something to with IP tracking.

So, usually with semrush it's a case of, get a 14-day trial ONCE and then decide whether you want to pay $250 every month thereafter.

Now, my friend can secure ongoing 14-day trials (DON'T ask me how, I don't want to manipulate any of you 🤣🤣🤣🤣), and you would get multiple "magic links" depending on how long you want to use it for.

Basically, you get multiple 14-day trials for an extended period of time, as an example he can offer 28 days of semrush GURU use (2 x free trials), 56 days (4 x free trial), or 84 days (7 x free trial)

However, he's clearly had to create and manage certain software and a team to help him do this, so there is obviously going to be a cost.

But upon initial discussion, here's what we came up with:

Semrush GURU for 28 days = $36 (would usually cost $250)

Semrush GURU for 56 days = $64 (would usually cost $500)

Semrush GURU for 84 days = $84 (would usually cost $750)

So, for those of you JUST wanting a website review, you could actually do something like spend $36 for a one month option, go to the Semrush YouTube channel and follow tutorials for whatever you want to know about your website, your competitors, keyword research, niche research, user generated content research, finding SERP results with specific entities, e.g. give me 1,000 keywords that have Medium ranking in the top 10 results or give me 1,000 keywords that have Quora ranking in the top 10 results, etc. you can find out where your competitiors get their backlinks from and use Semrush to help guide you through contacting these websies owners, etc.

Believe it or not, there are peope on Fiverr selling 1,000 keyword lists for $5.

Do you know what they do?

They put a url in a search box and click ONE BUTTON and the 1,000 keywords, including keyword difficulty, search volume, etc. comes up in about 30 seconds, and then they go and sell that.

Essentially, you could also use it as a business, offering keyword lists, if it takes 30 seconds to get the list, 30 seconds to download as an excel document, and 30 seconds to email your customer, you could quite easily make about 30 sales an hours, so that's $150 per hour if and you're selling them for a $5.

At a guess, if anyone wants JUST a website audit I can't see myself doing it for much less than $150, but clearly you could spend 2-3 hours on semrush's YouTube channel learning how to do things, what they mean, and then spend $36 and do the audit yourself (obviously, you can also do website aiudits for other people too, ANOTHER business opportunity).

So, firstly, SORRY, for dragging this thread out for as long as possible without getting to the POINT 🤣🤣🤣🤣 but I'm trying to find MULTIPLE AFFORDABLE ways to help you.

I would suggest that you all spend some time on the semrush YouTube channel to see what types of things you can do.

And then, for those who JUST want website audits, so no coaching (or perhaps don't want to pay for coaching immediately), let me know if something like this interests you (you too, Diane and Andy).

My thinking is if I get quite a few people... would my friend be willing to offer greater discounts? (personally, I think I've spoiled you enough offering a $250 product for $36 or a $500 product for $64 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)

And don't forget, if you spend a long time learning EVERYTHING about how semrush wirks (via their YouTube channel) you can actually offer SEO services yourself (once you unerstand everything, could be a few months to get to this stage)

I asked ChatGPT to give me a summary of just some of the website related stuff you can do:

  • Website Analysis

    • Site Audit: Identifies technical SEO issues and provides solutions.
    • On-Page SEO Checker: Offers on-page SEO suggestions.
    • Traffic Analytics: Provides insights into website traffic, including sources, user behavior, and top pages.
    • Position Tracking: Monitors your website's daily rankings for specific keywords.

  • Competitor Research

    • Domain Overview: Gives a comprehensive view of a competitor's domain performance.
    • Traffic Analytics: Analyzes competitors' website traffic and sources.
    • Organic Research: Shows competitors' top-performing organic keywords.
    • Advertising Research: Provides data on competitors' PPC campaigns.
    • Market Explorer: Identifies new competitors and market leaders in your niche.

  • Keyword Research

    • Keyword Overview: Provides metrics for a specific keyword, including search volume, difficulty, CPC, and competitive density.
    • Keyword Magic Tool: Generates extensive lists of related keywords and long-tail variations.
    • Keyword Gap: Compares your keyword profile with competitors to find opportunities.
    • Keyword Difficulty: Assesses how hard it is to rank for a particular keyword.

  • Backlink Acquisition

    • Backlink Analytics: Analyzes the backlinks of any website, including competitors.
    • Backlink Gap: Identifies backlink opportunities by comparing your link profile with competitors.
    • Backlink Audit: Helps you clean up your backlink profile by identifying toxic links.
    • Link Building Tool: Finds link building opportunities and manages outreach campaigns.

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@partha Definitely very interested in this!

Not least because the sh1t has finally hit the fan at work for me and it's a slightly rash decision but I've basically quit. It'll take a couple of months to actually get out of the place if I want them to continue paying me until the very end but I currently have at least 3 weeks where I will not be turning on the laptop, then 4 weeks notice where I will just be doing the very bare minimum!

Now I've gone and done it!

So anyway ... looking forward I'm planning to rekindle my web services website, offering basic starter hosting, Wordpress set up/config/maintenance etc and any other relevant services.

The SEMRush offer fits into this very nicely and I'll also be back on Fiverr, offering the same types of services so the more strings to my bow, the better! Need to have another look at your Festinger's vault stuff too :-)

Plunging my family back into a life of zero security, I need to make this work (I was a self-employed chippy for 20 years before going down the J.O.B. route, so I know all about having no job security).

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@partha I am heading over to the Semrush YouTube channel stat!

The ideas you put forward here is great, and getting a Semrush Guru account for just $36 for a month is out of this world.

This could definetly be of interest.

I am starting to wonder how «narrowminded» I really am reading your posts seeing how you are thinking out of the box :cool:

But I guess the «programming» I have been exposed to on a couple of platforms has done its job well to «box» me in :lol:
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We've all been programmed to some degree Roy. It's liberating to break free from that :-)

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@rohanm Amen to that :nerd_face:

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@partha interested! :rofl:

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This is a reply to ALL of you, but mainly based on something Roy said...

Basically, I can get cheap monthly prices on LOADS of different software and applications, BUT, during my time at WA, I STUCK TO THE RULES, I NEVER promoted myself and even though I knew I could get "cheap stuff", this would still involve me taking some money from you, therefore "self-promotion", so I didn't do it...

Off the top of my head, in addition to semrush Guru, still not sure if all all these are available, Canva Pro, Moz Pro, Screaming Frog, Shutterstock, Grammarly, QuillBot, Enavato Elements (although ALL of this is covered in the WordPress 25,000 themes and plugins I've mentioned in the Parasite SEO Course)... (i believe, I'll have to check, there is somewhere I can get cheap OpenAI accounts with additional PURCHASED credits, for something like $10-$15 per month... have to check on this though)

So, that is heavily discounted prices on ALL of the above...

The only thing I ask is that you DON'T ask me how 🤣🤣🤣🤣 And NO, you can't get into trouble for using these, everything is "above board" in semrush's mind, it's just that some blackhatters are fantastic at creating software that gets you around certain "loopholes"🤣🤣🤣🙈🙈🙈🙈

Anyway, the Semrush Guru is available IMMEDIATELY at the prices that I've quoted above

BUT

What I would suggest is not to waste the time "learning", so at least spend a few hours/days/weeks (however long it takes you) on semrush's YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj7v9UM1aGx6GR-nsY-9u8w BEFORE purchasing, at least that way you can take notes, save videos, and understand what you want and need to do before you have access to the tool (you don't want to pay for 30 days and then spend 10 days trying to understand the tool, etc. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)

PLUS

Don't forget, the better you learn the various functions of the software, the more services YOU CAN OFFER - how much do you think people would be willing to pay for 1,000 phrases + keyword lists based on their competitors and keyword GAPS that their competitors haven't used? or hpw much could you charge for an website audit with FULL PDF report, etc.

Anyway, there are LOADS of things that I can offer for hugely discounted prices, just always kept it to myself at WA, but I'm happy to share now, especially while we have a limited number of members on the forum.

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Definitely interested. Going to go check out Semrush on YouTube ... uhh, right now :)

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@Partha You never cease to amaze. I realise I made the right decision in following you off WA.

WordPress is still a big interest of mine, but what I really enjoy is writing. I hope I can find the time to follow both paths, and that is what I am working towards.

I have already given notice to the JOB that I am “retiring” next year. No more selling my sole for money! My new career will be a solopreneur. 🙂

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Complete semrush tutorial by Brian Dean (the "other" bald SEO Guru 🤣🤣🤣 who I actually prefer... there is a standing joke in the SEO community, that you need to either be bald or shave all your hair off to be considered a "guru" 🤣🤣)

And Brian's Backlinko website/business was obviously purchased by semrush a few years ago, so he kinda does "consulting" for them, so if anyone knows all the neat little tricks you need to learn with semrush, it'll be Brian.

https://backlinko.com/hub/seo/semrush

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Very interesting! Will check these channels out and study!

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@partha is Semrush better or like the same as ahrefs? (don’t remember how its written lol) . Time to watch the videos indeed

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@ohnoo_not_her Most of the SEO software tools are fairly similar, but ahrefs and semrush have typically been the "main two" (screaming frog, rankIQ, and SurferSEO users might say different)

ahrefs is probably more popular among SEO "tutors and gurus" (that's why you're always seeing them using them in YouTube videos)

ahrefs is the slightly cheaper option, and it offers more "projects" per level of membership:

As an example, the eqivalent to Guru would

ahrefs - Maximum 20 projects = $199/month

semrush - Maximum 15 projects = $250/month

BUT

semrush typically goes a bit deeper into the details it provides, e.g. ahrefs offers a credit system, semrush gives you exact numbers, 750 credits per report (would come to about 25,000 results per report), whereas semrush provides 30,000 results per report

BUT

Who here honestly has 15-20 projects to track?

one project = one main website to track, 4 main competitors to track, regular keyword tracking, on-page and off-page seo advice, new content ideas, new backlink ideas, niche research, keyword research, etc.

And honestly, who really needs 25,000 - 30,000 results on a report (how long is that gonna take to go through?)

So, while they're both great tools they can lead to information overload.

The only other thing is, after speaking to my friend again last night, this semrush is truly "grey/blackhat", so for anyone with very rigid morals, DO NOT TAKE UP THIS OFFER.

I'm now aware of exactly what he doesn, and he allowed me to speak directly to 3 long-term users last night.

Basically, they have built software, and have about 5 users (VAs) to keep everything up to date.

All their doing is opening multiple FREE 14-day trial GURU accounts, so when you constantly get NEW login details every 14 days, depending on how long you've paid for.

So, whenever you do ANYTHING on a semrush account always download it to your desktop, because that semrush account will be dead in 14 days.

But, do go througha full website audit with suggesions doesn't take long, just ensure that you download the PDF file to your desktop.

Same with keywords, let's say you request keywords around a certain subject, and you can even choose various things about those keywords, e.g. must have medium ranking in the top 10 results, etc. then as soon as you get your report, download it to your desktop.

Then in 14 days your "old" account is dead and you'll be provided with new login details for your "new trial account" and then you use that again for the next 14 days.

I would think for most of you, if you just want a full website audit and a huge list of keywords, you just need to pay for 28 days, use it, and then you've got everything you need (better than paying $250).

For those who wish to offer services, you just keep purchasing new accounts.

Of the 3 people I spoke to, my friend has been doing this for 2.5 years, one of the people has been doing this for the entire 2.5 years, so basically, he's spent about $1,200 on semrush for the last two years, if he has done it "officially" that would cost him $7,500.

This obviously means that if you ever talk to semrush support you can only do it under ONE account, therefore when you get a new account in 14 days you can't go back to support and ask about the same issue, as they then know you've "blackhatted" a new free trial account and will ban you.

So, there are downsides to this, but just think of the guy above, got $7,500 of semrush service over 2.5 years for the price of $1,200...

So, you've got to take the rough with the smooth, can't talk to support really, have to doanload everything you do EVERY SINGLE TIME, then you have to start your projects again (if you're going to do this long-term with the cheap semrush)

You also can't have two sessions running at the same time, that will get you banned.

So, when your first 14 days ends, go back into semrush and LOG YOURSELF OUT, clear your BROWSING HISTORY, wait a few hours and then log into your NEW "free trial account".

So, that's everything about this semrush offer... as I say, anyone who thinks this is morally wrong, don't take up the offer.

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@partha I’ll take the offer, just going to learn how it all works first and reread everything, slowly processor for new things hahaha. thanks!