Did anyone try these types of services to grow on Youtube?

Search Engines And SEO YouTube
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Now, I realise this is some blackhat, but not illegal, there's a difference lol. But we're here to make money, right?

So I've been looking around on a 'famous' blackhat site, and there is someone offering REAL "likes, comments, watch time, etc for Youtube", so these are not bots and the services are verified by the platform as 'reliable". I have been doing for 4 years now I think Youtube, and I have 4000 subscribers, but I'm under the impression that Google there has shadowbanned my account or something. As I get less and less views to each long form content video (where the ads are), UNLESS I go promote them heavily on all socials and especially facebook groups. And I'm talking like at least 10 FB groups where it is allowed to place links to Youtube.

If I didn't do this, it is like nobody sees my vids and I get like 10-20 views only, and I'm pretty tired of my montly income from Youtube not going anywhere. 4000 subscribers don't mean a thing if nobody watches.

So the service they would provide is about real clicks, so not just 'bots' likes and such (nah I know that bots don't work, they're not interested in your content and Google sees that). Just like we could do on WA at a certain point, but people just stopped doing that for some reason, which was a terrible shame,as you have the opportunity to do so on a huge platform.

Anyway, have you ever used a service like this and what are your experiences with it?

thanks!

Lizzy

PS, the same goes for a forum like this one here and my own dollhouse forum. WOuld buying comments work to get it more active?

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Hi Lizzy

Interesting stuff, but who can say for sure what the outcome will be? Perhaps someone here, like Partha, can give you a more experienced answer.

I hope things are going better for you with your FB issues. 😎

Rock On! 🤘

Frank 🎸

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Hi Lizzy

Interesting stuff, but who can say for sure what the outcome will be? Perhaps someone here, like Partha, can give you a more experienced answer.

I hope things are going better for you with your FB issues. 😎

Rock On! 🤘

Frank 🎸

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Hi Frank, I now totally lost all old accounts on Facebook, and needed to create a new personal one all over again, decided to let it go, there's no use unless I could somehow go to court or something. It's kind of horrible, but after all that struggle, I thought it was time to move on. (maybe next year I'll be back to it if I feel safe again, but for now, nah lol)

Dive even further into Pinterest (with automization and AI), and asked Partha if I should 'trade' Facebook with something else, but I don't want to bother him again for his personal reasons and troubles.

So I went looking further into another platform and found blackhatworld lol. And seriously considering to go further down that path aswell. Although Google has been a bit better to me lately, I don't trust them to stay any longer, that went so wrong before, trusting them hahaha!

So no more just one egg in one basket, or even focus on one egg, but always looking for new opportunities for growth. It seems that bluesky, for example, has been getting some good traffic lately, and it's probably worth checking that out and make a start on there while it's growing; take the opportunity of being amongst the first ones.
I was also thinking to expand TIKTOK, but now with the ban in the US and maybe even Europe, hum, we'll just wait that one.

Everything is always on the move all the time and we need to adapt to survive ;-)

Getting some traffic from CHAT gpt search by the way, that one is pretty cool :-)
keep rocking!
Lizzy

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@ohnoo_not_her I would be very careful with something like this, Lizzy. The last thing you want is YouTube to ban or close your account or something.

Roy

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@ohnoo_not_her I would be very careful with something like this, Lizzy. The last thing you want is YouTube to ban or close your account or something.

Roy

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We did this type of thing before on WA Roy, even Eric Cantu participated in giving eachother comments on youtube videos. Only these type of gigs are to pay for.
For example, if this platform was bigger, and it was focused on Youtube, we could have a (private) section where we ask eachother to like ones videos and ask for a good comment, just like the WA's comments thing. This is perfectly legal and not against any policies, in my opinion. It is not asking for bot traffic either.
But sure, that's why I was asking here first.
Lizzy

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[quote data-userid="31" data-postid="2002282"]

Hi Lizzy

Interesting stuff, but who can say for sure what the outcome will be? Perhaps someone here, like Partha, can give you a more experienced answer.

I hope things are going better for you with your FB issues. 😎

Rock On! 🤘

Frank 🎸

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Hi Frank, I now totally lost all old accounts on Facebook, and needed to create a new personal one all over again, decided to let it go, there's no use unless I could somehow go to court or something. It's kind of horrible, but after all that struggle, I thought it was time to move on. (maybe next year I'll be back to it if I feel safe again, but for now, nah lol)

Dive even further into Pinterest (with automization and AI), and asked Partha if I should 'trade' Facebook with something else, but I don't want to bother him again for his personal reasons and troubles.

So I went looking further into another platform and found blackhatworld lol. And seriously considering to go further down that path aswell. Although Google has been a bit better to me lately, I don't trust them to stay any longer, that went so wrong before, trusting them hahaha!

So no more just one egg in one basket, or even focus on one egg, but always looking for new opportunities for growth. It seems that bluesky, for example, has been getting some good traffic lately, and it's probably worth checking that out and make a start on there while it's growing; take the opportunity of being amongst the first ones.
I was also thinking to expand TIKTOK, but now with the ban in the US and maybe even Europe, hum, we'll just wait that one.

Everything is always on the move all the time and we need to adapt to survive ;-)

Getting some traffic from CHAT gpt search by the way, that one is pretty cool :-)
keep rocking!
Lizzy

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Hi Lizzy

Yeah, I think that OpenAI's Search GPT will eventually replace Google as the most frequently used search engine. It's great that your content is showing up there! 👍👍

It doesn't look good for TikTok in the USA, and I think that other social platforms will come under fire, too.

So sorry about FB, and I'm not surprised about the issues you're having with YouTube since they're owned by Google.

I'm not renewing my WA membership at the end of this month because it's too time-consuming to build a brand over multiple platforms, and I'm looking forward to having as much fun as possible with my upcoming full retirement in January 2025! Lol 😎

I might move my guitar site to WPX, but I doubt I'll be writing more content on it, so it's probably not worth it. At some point, I might try making some YouTube Shorts on guitar instruction. I taught offline (in person) guitar for years when I was in school to make some money for textbooks, etc.

I started online marketing as more of an experiment to see if I could incorporate a guitar website into my guitar-playing hobby, not to replace an income, so no big loss.

Rock On! 🤘

Frank 🎸

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[quote data-userid=“47” data-postid=“2002284”]

@ohnoo_not_her I would be very careful with something like this, Lizzy. The last thing you want is YouTube to ban or close your account or something.

Roy

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Great point, Roy! 😎

Frank 🤘🎸

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Not a good idea in my opinion, for a couple of reasons.

With YouTube, there are 2 types of audience - those who prefer short content and those who will watch longer videos.

If your genuine subscribers prefer short videos, then there is little you can do to change their preferences.

This is why, some people believe that you should not do short videos at the start of your creating your channel - they attract the wrong type of subscriber.

So, if you are purchasing views, subscribers, and watch time - would you know for certain they are being sent to your longer videos?

And you have to remember YouTube's algorithm generally sends your new content to your subscribers first, to check their interest.

If these paid subscribers have no interest in watching any further videos from you, this will send the wrong message to YouTube.

(The subscribers are likely to have been paid themselves to go to your channel as a one-off task, not to continue engaging with your content!)

I worked with a WA member a couple of years ago, who hired a Fiverr guy to "improve" her channel, and he "magically" increased her subscribers to get her to the point where she would be paid.

As I had admin access, I could see that all these subscribers joined on the same day, which looks suspicious, and they were all from one country!

I am no longer in touch with her, but her YouTube channel no longer exists, even though her website is still regularly updated.

I can't say for certain her account was deleted by YouTube, and perhaps some people can provide "real" views and subscribers, but I wouldn't do it!

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[quote data-userid="31" data-postid="2002282"]

I'm not renewing my WA membership at the end of this month because it's too time-consuming to build a brand over multiple platforms, and I'm looking forward to having as much fun as possible with my upcoming full retirement in January 2025! Lol 😎

I might move my guitar site to WPX, but I doubt I'll be writing more content on it, so it's probably not worth it. At some point, I might try making some YouTube Shorts on guitar instruction. I taught offline (in person) guitar for years when I was in school to make some money for textbooks, etc.

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Same here Frank, I maybe forgot to post about me leaving WA, but too late for that (I might have forgot LOL). I am also trying to build a brand across multiple platforms.

Rock on Frank!